Flash Poll: Ryan Pick Solidifies Ticket Differences, CA Democrats and Republicans Say

In a Patch survey, Republican activists lauded Paul Ryan for his fiscal conservatism and brainpower, while Democrats said the choice could help the Obama campaign.


California Democratic insiders are crowing about Mitt Romney’s choice of U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan as his running mate, saying the pick helps the Obama campaign, according to a Patch snap poll conducted over the weekend.

Republicans, meanwhile, said adding Ryan to the ticket could refocus the presidential campaign on economic issues and sway undecided voters - though not enough to turn the tide in true-blue California, some said.

Patch sent survey questions to 79 Republican and 63 Democratic party activists and elected officials within 48 hours of Romney’s announcement. Twenty-one Democrats and 21 Republicans responded.

More than three-quarters of Democratic respondents said Romney’s choice of Ryan—the chairman of the House Budget Committee and a strong advocate for cutting taxes and domestic spending—would galvanize California Democrats. 

The pick “cements the image of Romney as ideologically committed to dismantling public support for middle class needs (education, health, broad based employment),” one Democrat wrote.

Eighty-one percent of Democrats strongly or somewhat agreed that Ryan’s presence on the GOP ticket would help Obama win senior citizens’ votes in California, while 90 percent agreed with the statement: "Now that Ryan is on the ticket, Democrats can win by running against Ryan's existing budget plans and particularly his proposal for Medicare."

Republicans: Choice Will Energize GOP Base

Republicans who responded to the unscientific survey cited Ryan’s fiscal conservatism and ability to appeal to the GOP base as strong selling points.

The pick “shows Romney is serious about addressing fiscal and economic issues,” one Republican wrote.

“It provides a theme for the Romney campaign that didn't exist before,” added another. “It also hopefully moves the dialogue away from Romney's personal finances and experiences at Bain Capital.”

Forty-eight percent of Republicans agreed that Ryan could help win over California’s undecided voters, while 43% disagreed and 10% were neutral.

“It will definitely energize the GOP base, but him on the ticket doesn't suddenly put California in play,” one insider commented. California hasn't gone for a Republican presidential candidate since favoring George Bush over Michael Dukakis in 1988

Regardless of California’s fate, more than three-quarters of Republicans disagreed that the Democrats could win nationally by attacking Ryan’s budget plans, while only 10% agreed. And some even expressed hope that Californians could learn from the VP pick’s tough talk on budgeting.

“The pick of Ryan will help educate voters in California about the importance of limited government and how we cannot spend our way into prosperity,” wrote one Republican.

Insiders from both parties characterized Ryan as smart and charismatic.

“Whether or not someone agrees with his politics, the Paul Ryan VP candidacy provides a worthy adversary to the Obama-Biden campaign and a clear distinction between the two tickets,” one Democrat wrote.

Patch’s Red and Blue California Surveys

Our surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local Republican and Democratic activists, party leaders and elected officials in California. All of these individuals have agreed to participate in the surveys, although not all responded to this weekend's questions.

Patch will be conducting Red California and Blue California surveys throughout 2012 in hopes of determining the true sentiment of conservatives and liberals on the ground in California. If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in weekly surveys that last just a few minutes, please email Sandra.Oshiro@Patch.com.

Red California Survey roster: Richard Adams (Studio City Neighborhood Council safety chief); Gary Aminoff (San Fernando Valley Republicans president); Michael Antonovich (Los Angeles County supervisor); Steve Baric (California Republican Party vice chair); Tony Beall (Rancho Santa Margarita City Council member); Susan Blau (Studio City political activist); Dion Bracco (Gilroy Council member, mayoral candidate); Daniel M. Brown (San Francisco GOP Central Committee member); Sue Caro (County GOP chairwoman); Scott Carpenter (Orange County political blogger); Tamara Colbert (Tea Party member); John Colbert (Former Republican candidate for Congress); Dylan Conroy (Greater Toluca Lake Neighborhood Council representative); Irene DeBlasio (Republican activist); Steve Detrick (Elk Grove City Council member) Ben DiBenedetto (Studio City Neighborhood Council board member); Jane Diehl (Redondo Beach school board member); Chip Dykes (Oceanside City Council candidate); Laura Emdee (Redondo Beach school board member); Heidi Gallegos (Rowland Unified School District Board member); Andrew Gayner Carmichael (Patch blogger); Mike Gin (Redondo Beach mayor); Gil Gonzalez (State Senate candidate); David Hall (Mt. San Antonio College Board trustee); Alex Keledjian (La Canada Flintridge Young Republicans president); Ernest Koeppen (La Canada Flintridge resident); Becky Kolberg (Contra Costa GOP chair); Bob Kowell (Murrieta-Temecula Republican Assembly president); Greg Krikorian (State Assembly candidate); Jim Light (Balanced-growth advocate); Patrice Lynes (Activist); Morgan Martinez (former governor aide); Larry Masuoka (San Juan Unified School District Board member); Brad McGirr (Rancho Santa Margarita planning commissioner) Gina McNelley (Capistrano Valley Republican Women Federated member) Bridget Melson (East Bay Tea Party chair); Mark Meuser (State Senate candidate); Nathan Mintz (Former AD66 candidate); Larry Molton (California GOP member); Roger Niello (Sacramento County Chamber of Commerce president); Gayle Pacheco (Republican Women Federated member); Chris Pareja (Congressional candidate); Al Phillips (State Assembly candidate); Al Restivo (Former La Canada Republicans Club president); Matt Rexroad (Yolo County supervisor); Elizabeth Sanford (political consultant); Scott Schmidt (Former LA Chapter Log Cabin Republicans president); Howard Schmidt (Chief of staff for Sacramento County supervisor); Nick Shih (Activist); Suzanne St. John (Activist); Mary Su (Walnut mayor); Gino Sund (Altadena Town Council member); Peter Tateishi (State Assembly candidate); Brad Torgan (LA Chapter Log Cabin Republicans president); Steve Vaus (City budget review committee member); Bob Walters (Former San Juan Unified School Board member); John Webb (Businessman).

Blue California roster: Armando Gomez (city councilman); Anita Avrick (school board member); Michael Barber (supervisor); Reginald Bronner (assembly candidate); Kathy Bisbee (CMAP executive director); Jennifer Browning (campaign volunteer); David Burruto (county party chair); Ralph Carhart (recreation and parks district board member); Cat Tucker (mayor pro tempore); Nancy Chaires (planning commissioner); Jay Chen (congressional candidate); Norman Chramoff (party member); Ken Cooley (city councilman); Joice Corridori (political activist); Payne Domingo (school board trustee); Don Helverson (teacher); James Donnelly (Democratic Club president); John Duran (city councilman); Pablo Espinoza (media director); Lucas Frerichs (city councilman); Gary Blenner (teacher); Gary Giacomo (Democratic Club member); Joanne Gifford (DNC delegate); Alan Haskvitz (teacher); Lindsey Horvath (city council member); Howard Hwang (party member) Ilona Saari (author); Juliana Inman (city council member); Jeff Kravitz (attorney); John Walker (neighborhood council president); Sarah Johnson (community activist); Jessie Kallman (Democratic Club executive director); Michael Kapp (political activist); Ro Khanna (former Obama administration official); Kris Kingdon (former chamber executive director); Karen Knecht (Democratic Club member); Keith LaMar (activist); Kristina Lawson (city council member); Linda Rubin (party member); Todd Loewenstein (school board member); Mary Ann Mancuso (party member); Marc Perkel (church founder); Marla Hart (party member); Marsha Grilli (school board member); Jennifer Mason Wolfe (teacher); Michelle Garcia (party member); Richard M. Mathews (LACDP vice-chair, Region 1); Gary Miller (county party central committee member); Katrina Morales (activist); Harry Munns (harbor commissioner); Mark Nielsen (former mayor); Don Nottoli (supervisor); Peter Arellano (council member); Jeffrey Prang (mayor); Diana Prola (school board member); Kish Rajan (city council member); Tony Santos (former mayor); Tim Sbranti (mayor); Jane Schafer-Kramer (labor union activist); Bob Schelen (county party chair); Darren Suen (former city council candidate); Joe Terry (talk show host); Robin Torello (Democrat Club chairwoman); James Tsai (party member); Mark van Gorder (supervisor candidate); Vince Monroy (communications director); Jill Wain Meniatis (Democratic Club member); Lee Walkup (party member); Sheila Young (former mayor); Laurence Zakson (convention delegate)

Sandra Oshiro contributed to this report.

What do you think about Mitt Romney's choice of a running mate? Tell us in the comments.

David H. Perez August 14, 2012 at 08:00 PM
Obama's biggest mistake was not telling the Republicans to take a hike right from the get-go, like George W. Bush did with the Democrats. He spent way too much time "reaching across the aisle." He has learned a hard lesson that you cannot reason with the devil (meant figuratively of course, since I am not religious). And ever since Obama took office, the Republicans have used every possible tactic, dirty or not, to obstruct anything good Obama has tried to accomplish. I am absolutely convinced we would have single-payer healthcare today were it not for the Grand Obstructionist Party (GOP). And come on, we know why the Republicans REALLY want Obama out. If Obama does win a second term, I hope he quits reaching out to the GOP but rather tells them to go dive off a bridge. It worked for Bush with the Democrats - look how much damage Bush was able to accomplish!
Cathy P. August 14, 2012 at 08:27 PM
@Allen King: I too have felt some of the same frustration the past four years, however I do not believe that President Obama is the one who created the class divide. Wall Street greed, unencumbered by government regulation have brought us to where we are today. We hear no assignment of responsibility for the current recession to any private interest. All we hear is that government is our enemy and if we only had way less government regulation, economic magic would occur. It's easy to give up on Obama because he was supposed to change Washington, but that view places ALL the blame on Obama, but not on Congress and the Republicans. That's too easy imo. However you do decide to vote, vote your conscience and not against your own self-interests. Take care.
smantha August 14, 2012 at 08:40 PM
Ryan has a very good plan for our seniors - make sure the program is solvent. He will not change the program for anyone over age 55; but his plans are to be sure the Medicaid program is there for future generations as well. All obama has done is to splinter all of us; take our jobs; and steal 875 billion dollars from seniors; putting in senior death panels to be sure we cannot replace our weak knees in the future. Horrible Obama - bad newspapers who hurt our seniors.
smantha August 14, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Such despicable lies Obama does - he huas hurt us all., Barack already had his birthday so forget his card; he is just asking us to give him more money instead of using it for our kids in Milpitas. Is that what Obama wants - more poltiical liar ads - more slamming the American people. Maria, you need to learn to love everyone; to support those who work; to support those who will make America again great. Obama has done so little for the American people - but he has played 150 games of golf; buys his wife $6000 blouses; charges the American public $50 million for each of his wifes trips; and stole 875 billion from seniors to make medicare bankrupt. Yeah - right - what a fraud obama is.
Susan August 14, 2012 at 09:07 PM
You forgot to mention Obama was born in Kenya, and that he is a Marxist, Socialist, Fascist.
L.A. Chung August 14, 2012 at 09:50 PM
Editor's note: In the interest in setting the record straight, the public record from the state of Hawaii is very clear on this matter, @Susan. Barack Obama was born in the United States in the state of Hawaii. As for the string of "-isms," invoked, that may be fair territory for debate, which I certainly encourage, but I think that ideologically, if you look at their definitions, it's difficult to be Fascist and Marxist/Socialist at the same time. One or the other can be to argued, but not all three, since they simply are not logically reposing in a single coherent set of beliefs
Cathy P. August 14, 2012 at 10:04 PM
@L.A. Chung: I realize you cannot hear sarcasm online but Susan was making a joke and I do love your second paragraph though. In fact I was going to add to Susan's list that Obama is also a Radical Communist, an Islamic Terrorist Supporter, a Leninist (not a Marxist) and if he isn't stopped Communist flags will fly on every U.S. street in America. (I'm laughing so hard I'm crying!)
Cathy P. August 14, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Hear, hear smantha, Medicaid and Death Panals for all! And a toast to future weak knees...
Susan August 14, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Well if you say so, but I've sure seen websites that claim otherwise… I apolgize for spreading ridiculous lies about the President of the United States.
Cathy P. August 14, 2012 at 10:31 PM
@Susan: yeah, shame on you (still laughing so hard I'm crying).
L.A. Chung August 14, 2012 at 10:40 PM
@Cathy P., this is what sleep deprivation does to a woman. All inflection, written or otherwise, fail to register. ;-)
Cathy P. August 14, 2012 at 10:48 PM
No worries! It's hard to tell around here sometimes - lol.
Susan August 15, 2012 at 04:29 PM
Cathy, when in doubt we can look to our leaders for the truth. On his website and in an email on Monday, House Speaker John [wet brain] Boehner said the President needs to take personal responsibility for the drought ravaging the Midwest. Obama, “continues to blame anyone and everyone for the drought but himself.” Whew! I thought the drought was God's revenge for homosexuality… so, let's start connecting the dots: If we get rid of that Kenyan-Fascist-Socialist-Martian, the drought will go away!
Cathy P. August 15, 2012 at 07:21 PM
@Susan: Oy Vey, I hear you. We really need some emoticons for the comment section so you can see me "rolling my eyes" in agreement. =^..^=
Susan August 17, 2012 at 02:33 AM
Devo - Don't Roof Rack Me, Bro! (Seamus Unleashed) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuXunulTYpU Devo's Jerry Casale wants it to be known that their newest song, "Don't Roof Rack Me, Bro," isn't meant as a partisan statement -- even though it viciously mocks Mitt Romney for strapping his Irish Setter, Seamus, to the roof of his car for a 1983 family vacation. "This isn't a red-state thing or Devo stumping for Obama," he says. "But I think any animal lover that hears the story will learn so much about the character flaw of Romney. It's just a deal-breaker about the man. My God, the world is a scary place with seven billion people. What you want in a leader is a guy with some humanity at his core. I just don't feel that Mitt does."
TZ August 26, 2012 at 04:54 AM
any one who thinks the prez of the US, that has control over foreign relations, and drilling of the biggest reserves known to man, along with pouring billions, wait hundreds of billions of dollars into battery cars and solar crap, and by the way he has less than zero foreign policy skills, no budget...ever... hes been so reliant in his life on government handouts, that his household never has needed a budget, so why have one for a country ??? so irresponsible !!! keep drinkin that kool aid !!! From the lost world comments of a one susan, seems like she wants to be the monica lew of the 21st century !!
WM. August 30, 2012 at 01:37 PM
I would not trust or believe the birth certificate from the so called Hawian authorities. Everything I have seen and read points to a cover-up and forgery. Why hasn't Obama released any records? Why has he never been vetted? Google "Franklin Marshal Davis" And why does the Patch have soo many Obama ads? Have the Huffinton people ever approached the GOP?
L.A. Chung August 30, 2012 at 04:11 PM
I've learned my lesson on this string. I'm not falling for this again. ;-)
Susan August 30, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Last night, Paul Ryan lied about Medicare, the Recovery Act, and the deficit and debt. He even dishonestly attacked President Obama for the closing of a GM plant in his hometown of Janesville, Wisconsin -- a plant that closed in December 2008 under George W. Bush! Paul Ryan: Wrong for the Middle Class http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ukkJYkANZ98#! Get the facts on the GOP Convention here: http://OFA.BO/JEX5Nd
Mark Burns August 30, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Well then don't vote for him. Go right along with the current slogan on the banner ads, "Let's finish the job we started." You can point to some propaganda link on youtube or you can go see 2016. Come back and report how much of that was a lie too. Postscript to the movie is the fact that Dinesh D'Souza sent George Obama $1000 last month for medical expenses because his own brother has disowned him.
Allen King August 30, 2012 at 08:54 PM
Corporations pay little tax due to tax loopholes. What did Obama do? zero, squat. Wall street crooked brought the country down. What did Obama do? zero, squat. He could have let loose US Attorneys after these crooks but he didn't. He is just a talk talk and talk and illiterates fall for those talks. Gas prices are manipulated by gas companies and what did Obama do? nothing, squat. He didn't even make an effort to end the tax incentives these gas companies get. When ever he open his mouth, the only thing I hear is "Increase taxes, increase debt limits."
TZ August 30, 2012 at 10:36 PM
The plant in Janesville closed in 2009.... Here's your prez's promise, the many broken promises..... QUOTE On February 13, 2008, Democratic Presidential Candidate Barack Obama stated, "This can be America’s future. I know that General Motors received some bad news yesterday, and I know how hard your Governor has fought to keep jobs in this plant. But I also know how much progress you’ve made – how many hybrids and fuel-efficient vehicles you’re churning out. And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years. The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, it’s where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America; right here in Wisconsin; and that’s the future I’ll fight for as your President."
Susan August 30, 2012 at 11:19 PM
It closed less than a month before Obama took office. Source: http://factcheck.org/2012/08/ryans-vp-spin/ So, the plant closed while Bush was still in office, about a month before Obama was inaugurated. Source: http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2012/aug/29/paul-ryan/did-barack-obama-break-promise-keep-gm-plant-open/
TZ August 30, 2012 at 11:34 PM
You o-bombites on here are so full of crap it's comical.. Jacob, I will just touch on your top 3 lies.. One water boarding terrorists was successful, don't forget 9/11... The credit card reform was started in 08 by bush, signed later by bam bam... It has good and bad points, I should know I had major credit card debt back then... And kind sir, I was turned down in the last few months because of a very minor pre existing injury, and have yet to be able to obtain med ins... This prez has spent millions to block his history... I'm not convinced of his Hawaii birth certificate, and I've never got a decent answer of how or why his ssn is from a state (conneticut) that he never resided in. He is burying us in debt, he is devisive, and a flat out liar.. It was very refreshing to hear Paul Ryan, the sincerity in his eyes and voice, their path of restoring our country.... O-bomb-ya has a very tough road in the next two months... Like Ryan said, NEVER SAW AN OPPONENT SO QUIET ABOUT THEIR RECORD !!! RYAN IS A REAL STUD !! The cards are on the table.. read em and weep !!
TZ August 31, 2012 at 01:22 AM
Thats a lie susan.... it had went to sceleton crews, and I posted your prez's claims on the matter, you probably didnt read his quotes, typical denialI use Wikipedia as a source, they are non biased... I wont even click on any place that a left nut would look at.. I dont want them getting my internet address, or esp I might get a trojan, or virus,, ,.
TZ August 31, 2012 at 02:38 AM
Thats a lie susan.... it had went to skeleton crews, and I posted your prez's claims on the matter, you probably didn't read his quotes, typical denial I use Wikipedia as a source, they are non biased... I wont even click on any place that a left nut would look at.. I don't want them getting my internet address, or esp I might get a trojan, or virus,, ,.
L.A. Chung August 31, 2012 at 07:33 AM
Making the decision to order the Navy Seals operation that got Osama bin Laden was no small thing. Many of his advisers were urging 'no' for differnt reasons. Those who remembered the failed attempt to rescue the Iran hostages know what the impact was on Jimmy Carter for making that decision.
Susan August 31, 2012 at 03:26 PM
Even Fox News called Ryan a liar: "…to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. " http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/ "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers," Romney pollster Neil Newhouse, 08/28/2012
Eye B. Tender September 10, 2012 at 04:49 AM
"NO President has much control over gas prices" - that is a HUGE LIE!!! Broke Oh Bummer could had issued an Executive Order requiring that all Federally purchased vehicles must be able to burn natural gas. No Congressional approval required. One stroke of his pen would have forced the auto makers to manufacture such vehicles - thus bringing their price down to within range of the Public. The law of supply and demand would have then kicked in bringing the price of gasoline at the pump way way down. But, the President had previously said, "Under my policies energy prices will skyrocket". He was right. This is exactly what he wanted. He deliberately caused these high gas prices for the American Public.
Eye B. Tender September 10, 2012 at 04:57 AM
The Democrats held total control for two years. They got their way and showed their true colors.. The Voters got a load of what they were really up to and Elected enough Republicans to stop them.


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